It appears that MWSD defines it at the Advanced level:
https://www.ceder.net/def/doublestarthru.php?language=usa&level=A1
It is a Mirror Star Thru. But only if that is what you meant by Reverse!
But I would stick to "Twirl". :-)
Happy dancing,
John
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From: Greenleaf via Contra Callers <contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
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To: Diane Silver <diane(a)diane-silver.com>
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Subject: [Callers] Re: is there an agreed term?
I think in MWDS it’s called mirror image star thru (Gents L, Lady’s R). If I’m calling it for contra dancers, I might explain the terminology, but then just call it “twirl to swap”, being careful to stress the end result: Side by side, both facing the same direction.
Lisa G
> On Dec 2, 2019, at 2:31 PM, Diane Silver via Contra Callers <contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
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> A caller not on this list asked me: Is there an agreed term for a reverse star through?
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> I don't know of one (other than "reverse star through"), so I'm putting it out there to everyone.
>
> Thanks.
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I think in MWDS it’s called mirror image star thru (Gents L, Lady’s R). If I’m calling it for contra dancers, I might explain the terminology, but then just call it “twirl to swap”, being careful to stress the end result: Side by side, both facing the same direction.
Lisa G
> On Dec 2, 2019, at 2:31 PM, Diane Silver via Contra Callers <contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
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> A caller not on this list asked me: Is there an agreed term for a reverse star through?
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> I don't know of one (other than "reverse star through"), so I'm putting it out there to everyone.
>
> Thanks.
> -- Diane
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Hi Diane,
I don’t believe there is an accepted term for a Reverse Star Through, especially as that could be ambiguous! Larry Jennings used the term “Twirl to Swap” as a generic term for any such movement.
For a “Twirl to Swap” the starting position will normally be defined by the end of the previous move. The caller then needs to specify which hand each person is using, who goes under the arch, and what the final position should be.
Once I have done that during the walkthrough I normally just call it a Twirl. Early in the dance it may help to provide a reminder about how it works; sometimes “inside hand” or “outside hand” works, depending on the dance.
Happy dancing,
John
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From: Diane Silver via Contra Callers <contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
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Subject: [Callers] is there an agreed term?
A caller not on this list asked me: Is there an agreed term for a reverse star through?
I don't know of one (other than "reverse star through"), so I'm putting it out there to everyone.
Thanks.
-- Diane
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A caller not on this list asked me: Is there an agreed term for a
reverse star through?
I don't know of one (other than "reverse star through"), so I'm putting
it out there to everyone.
Thanks.
-- Diane
~~~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~~~~ ~~ ~~~ ~~~~~
Diane Silver
diane(a)diane-silver.com
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Bill Kinsman died in hospital on Sunday 24th November. He had been in hospital for a couple of weeks and seemed to be improving enough to be discharged to sheltered accommodation with Barbara on the Monday but he developed double pneumonia and went downhill quite quickly. The funeral is on Friday, 20th December. There will be a short committal service at the crematorium at 1:00pm followed by a service of thanksgiving (approx 1:45pm) at St Barnabas Church, Kingshurst, Solihull, B37 6EY. Following this there will be a wake at a hotel in Coleshill.
Colin Hume
Emily and all,
I agree that “Do Si Three” is excellent. Fun, fast to learn. I use it alot.
I love 3Face3’s for certain types of gigs. They help newer dancers “feel” a contra progression. They help contra dancers at a community dance “feel like” they are contra dancing. :-)
Other 3x3’s I have and like are:
Haste to the Divorce, Tom Hinds
(I usually call it “Haste to the Reception”)
A1: F and B; Circle Left (all 6)
A2: Circle Right (all 6);
DSD opposite
B1: Hook waists (or elbows) in line of 3
As a 3-some, DSD the opposite 3 (in a blob of 3) 1 and 1/2 times to progress
B2: Basket swing for 3, face next
Ménage à Trois Al Olson
A1: Line of 3 go Forward, and pass thru (do not turn around); Center person does Right Hand High and Left Hand Low to turn the line of three 180 to face the same original opposites (neighbors) again.
Repeat. This gets everyone back to starting place again.
A2: Swing Opposite
Return to original trio and original direction
B1: Circle Left (all 6) half way
F and B
B2: Basket swing trio and face original direction (backs to original opposites)
My note: Teach “right hand high and left hand low” thoroughly. Dancers want to pass thru and turn alone to face original opp’s.
Sue
In Wisconsin,
not Snowing yet tonight.
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> On Nov 23, 2019, at 9:47 PM, Kalia Kliban via Contra Callers <contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
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> On 11/23/2019 11:41 AM, Richard Fischer via Contra Callers wrote:
>> Linda Leslie wrote Do Si Three. You can find it here:
>> http://lindalesliecaller.contracorner.com/dances/very-easy-dances.html
>> Richard Fischer
>> Princeton, NJ
>
> Do Si Three is great. I've used it at family dances, so I can vouch for it being an easy one. If your crowd is up for contra corners (I know, it's a long shot) then Melanie Avel-Lute's Down By The Riverside is a good choice. If it doesn't have to be 3 facing 3, but could be trios all facing the same way like spokes on a wheel, then I highly recommend Rebecca's Roundabout by John Chapman. Another trios-all-facing-CCW dance is Silly Threesomes. Here's a video link:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wL2ucm2Wds
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Regarding squares:
Every caller who uses squares should have Cumberland Square Eight in their repertoire. It’s easy both to dance and to call.
CUMBERLAND SQUARE EIGHT (trad. English)
Music: My Love Is But a Lassie Yet (2/4) or Athol Highlanders (6/8) or some of each
A.1 Heads slide across in ballroom hold or “kayak” position (join two hands, spread arms to side); gents pass back to back
Return, ladies passing back to back
A.2 Sides the same
B.1 Heads right hands across (English star), left hands back
B.2 Sides the same
C.1 Heads basket
C.2 Sides the same
D.1 All circle left once around
D.2 All promenade once around
A polka or rant step is traditional for D.1 and D.2, but a dance-walk can be used.
With groups that don’t know the buzz step (i.e. at most one-nighters), I replace the basket with a slipping circle of four (to the left only, about twice around).
It seems to be traditional to do the whole dance twice through – or is that just because it neatly filled up half a record side in the days of 78s?
Just about my favorite easy square is Kitchen Lancers. It does take a bit more calling skill than Cumberland.
KITCHEN LANCERS (one of several simplified versions of the 5th figure of the Lancers Quadrille from 1817, collected at country dances in New England and Quebec)
Music: Quebecois reels (note that it’s a 48-measure figure, but you can use 32-measure tunes and start the 2nd and 4th couples halfway through the tune)
A.1 Couple 1 promenade the inside, ending at home facing out; sides jump in behind #1 to form a column all facing the music
A.2 All forward and back; all slide to right and return to left
B.1 Ladies/ravens parade in single file around partner’s line (four around four, not each one around one)
B.2 Gents/larks the same
C.1 All face partner, back up three steps, forward three steps; swing partner to original place in the square
C.2 All join hands, forward and back twice
Sequence: Once for each couple (when a side couple is active, the heads will jump in at A.1)
After the walkthrough, I mention that the whole contraption will face a different wall for each active couple. Sometimes I walk A.1 and C.1 for Couple 2 to illustrate this.
Tony Parkes
Billerica, MA, USA
From: Emily Addison via Contra Callers <contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 2:19 PM
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Subject: [Callers] Really fun 3X3 dances? And easy squares?
Hi fellow callers!
I remember seeing a video a few months back from the Portland Intown contra. The dancers seemed to be having an absolute blast with a 3X3 contra-like dance.
Does anyone have any really fun 3X3 dances?
I'm looking to add variety into the formations I'm calling at an upcoming contra/square/barn dance.
Also --> Any suggestions for super fun but easy to learn square figures?
Thanks!
Emily in Ottawa
Coming out of the swing, the lady's momentum is forward while the gent's is
backward, so lady in front in the Mad Robin makes a lot of sense.
Also it flowed nicely when I called it last night. The dancers seemed to
be pleased.
Dale
On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 11:41 AM Jean Gibson-Gorrindo via Contra Callers <
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> No I have not tried that. Let me know if you do and how it works!
>
> Jean
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> On Nov 25, 2019, at 9:13 AM, Gregory Frock <gregfrock(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hey Jean,
>
> Nice dance. Did you consider or field test reversing the mad robin (gents
> forward and left to start)? Just curious.
>
> Regards,
>
> Greg
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> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 12:09 PM Jean Gibson-Gorrindo via Contra Callers <
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>> Actually, I wrote it for my 69th birthday, which was on Oct 1. You see,
>> when you are born, that is your first trip around the sun. Then you have
>> your first birthday, which is actually your 2nd trip around the sun. I am
>> so happy the dance is being called! YAY!! The only tricky part seems to
>> be having the Neighbor gent end the swing in good time, to allow the Lady
>> to transition smoothly into the Mad Robin with their next neighbor.
>>
>> Amy - I will be up your way for my actual 70th birthday, on my
>> Septuagenarian Tour with Audrey Knuth and Amy Englesberg! Hope to see you
>> then!
>>
>> Jean
>>
>> On Nov 25, 2019, at 8:57 AM, Amy Wimmer via Contra Callers <
>> contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
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>> Jean wrote it to celebrate her 70th birthday. 70 trips around the sun.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019, 7:25 AM Dale Wilson via Contra Callers <
>> contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
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>>> I called this last night at Childgrove in Saint Louis. Dancers seemed
>>> pleased, but I got some questions about the title -- I think some of them
>>> heard 70 Libra Sons and were imagining a bunch of boys born in October.
>>> Where did the name come from?
>>>
>>> Dale
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 2:39 PM Tncontracaller via Callers <
>>> callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
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>>>> Sounds like a fun dance. It is new to me.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Jean Gibson-Gorrindo via Callers <
>>>> callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello All! I wanted to write a dance in celebration of my stepping
>>>> into the Libra Sun for the 70th time. I wanted it to be very balanced, in
>>>> Libra fashion.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone seen this dance before? It is not like anything in my data base
>>>> that has Mad Robin in the A1, but I did not search the other figures.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your input!
>>>>
>>>> Jean Gorrindo
>>>>
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>
>>>> *From: *Jean Gibson-Gorrindo <jgorrindo(a)charter.net>
>>>> *Subject: **"70 Libra Suns" by Jean Gorrindo*
>>>> *Date: *September 24, 2019 at 8:25:56 AM PDT
>>>> *To: *jean gorrindo <jgorrindo(a)charter.net>
>>>>
>>>> 70 Libra Suns
>>>> by Jean Gorrindo
>>>> Contra/Improper/Easy
>>>>
>>>> A1 -----------
>>>> (8) Mad Robin (Ladies pass in front moving Right
>>>> (8) Balance the ring and spin to the right (petronella)
>>>> A2 -----------
>>>> (16) Partner balance and swing
>>>> B1 -----------
>>>> (8) 1/2 Hey, Ladies passing right shoulders
>>>> (8) Ladies allemande Right 1-1/2
>>>> B2 -----------
>>>> (16) Neighbor balance and swing
>>>>
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one that never starts up.
John, et. al.,
I have the author of the last as Beth Okun. I found my transcription in the
UNH Northern Junket Archives.
Hope this helps,
Greg
On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 9:07 AM John Sweeney via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I just started working on this page from English Dance &
> Song:
>
> http://contrafusion.co.uk/Dances/EFDS8006-NewHampshireContras.html
>
>
>
> Thanks to those who pointed out that the location was
> actually Francestown.
>
>
>
> I found the third one using The Caller's Box - it is
> Spaelimenninir Reel #4 by Larry Jennings. (Thanks Chris & Michael!)
>
>
>
> The A part of the second one is the same as The Nova
> Scotian, but with a completely different B part.
>
>
>
> Any further insights much appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Happy dancing,
>
> John
>
>
>
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> 940 574
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It’s 4 slides to the right, then 4 to the left. Everyone is going in the same direction, so there’s little risk of tripping. (The move is a simplification of the original formal Lancers, in which partners went past each other, ladies in front to the left, gents behind to the right.)
I always demonstrate it, modeling short slides to minimize rowdiness. (It’s closer to a basketball shuffle than to an all-out gallop.) If the group is mainly retirement age or I have other reasons to suspect they may be uncomfortable sliding, I offer “side, behind, side, kick” as an alternative, pointing out that both versions can be mixed in a set without mishap.
Tony Parkes
Billerica, MA, USA
From: joe micheals <joemicheals1(a)yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 2:14 PM
To: Tony Parkes <tony(a)hands4.com>
Subject: Re: [Callers] Re: Really fun 3X3 dances? And easy squares?
Hi Tony,
On Kitchen Lancers please describe the slide left and right….is it 8 sashays each way? How do you make it fun and not trip over each other?
-Joe
