4 Dec
2025
4 Dec
'25
8:35 a.m.
A Different Way Forward https://share.google/1OzBw4bN7wf8Zu9JN
I am calling this weekend and walked this dance through with a small group
last night to prepare. I thought it was such an easy, straightforward
dance. 😆 No hard moves, everything flows into the next move nicely... The
end effects were tripping people up even though they *knew* what was going
on. These were all experienced dancers. We only had 2 hands fours and it's
a triple progression dance, so everyone was always involved in end effects.
Maybe that's the only reason it was so complicated. I do know more things I
could point out from the beginning now (the ladies that are out won't be
doing the first allemande, but everybody will be doing the second
allemande; all the ladies will be traveling counterclockwise around the
major set and all the men will be traveling clockwise) but I'm afraid to
call it on Saturday. Is this dance really that hard? What should I think?
😅 How do I do a better walkthrough? I don't want it to be information
overload but do I need to give a big picture explanation of the dance
before anyone starts moving? Or is this just all going to go better in
longer sets and people will sort out the end effects... ? It's such a fun
dance that I don't want to give it up but I don't want it to be a flop
either.
8 Dec
8 Dec
8:15 a.m.
Great pre-walkthrough notes, Dale. As a general comment, I think many of us
could stand to add more well-considered pre-walkthrough notes in our
teaching.
On Mon, Dec 8, 2025 at 10:50 AM Dale Wilson via Contra Callers <
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oops. one more pre-walk-thru note:
Ladies (Robins) look diagonal left to identify the neighbor you will meet
soon.
Dale
On Mon, Dec 8, 2025 at 8:52 AM Dale Wilson <dale.wilson(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I called this last night at Childgrove in Saint
Louis. It worked well
and the dancers seemed to be having a good time. Also it was fun to watch
from the stage.
Before starting the walk-thru I warned the dancers about the triple
progression and said:
You are never out in this dance. Do every move. If there is no neighbor
available for a move, do the move with your partner.
If you do not have a neighbor for the lady's (robin's) allemande, do it
with your partner.
Otherwise, nothing special in the walk-thru.
Note we had our usual mix of very good dancers with a handful of
beginners including at least one "perpetual beginner."
Dale
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This dance works well as a quadruplet (contra
line with only four
couples)
On Thu, Dec 4, 2025 at 10:37 AM Katie A via Contra Callers <
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_______________________________________________ A Different Way Forward
https://share.google/1OzBw4bN7wf8Zu9JN
I am calling this weekend and walked this dance through with a small
group last night to prepare. I thought it was such an easy, straightforward
dance. 😆 No hard moves, everything flows into the next move nicely... The
end effects were tripping people up even though they *knew* what was going
on. These were all experienced dancers. We only had 2 hands fours and it's
a triple progression dance, so everyone was always involved in end effects.
Maybe that's the only reason it was so complicated. I do know more things I
could point out from the beginning now (the ladies that are out won't be
doing the first allemande, but everybody will be doing the second
allemande; all the ladies will be traveling counterclockwise around the
major set and all the men will be traveling clockwise) but I'm afraid to
call it on Saturday. Is this dance really that hard? What should I think?
😅 How do I do a better walkthrough? I don't want it to be information
overload but do I need to give a big picture explanation of the dance
before anyone starts moving? Or is this just all going to go better in
longer sets and people will sort out the end effects... ? It's such a fun
dance that I don't want to give it up but I don't want it to be a flop
either.
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7:49 a.m.
oops. one more pre-walk-thru note:
Ladies (Robins) look diagonal left to identify the neighbor you will meet
soon.
Dale
On Mon, Dec 8, 2025 at 8:52 AM Dale Wilson <dale.wilson(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I called this last night at Childgrove in Saint Louis.
It worked well and
the dancers seemed to be having a good time. Also it was fun to watch from
the stage.
Before starting the walk-thru I warned the dancers about the triple
progression and said:
You are never out in this dance. Do every move. If there is no neighbor
available for a move, do the move with your partner.
If you do not have a neighbor for the lady's (robin's) allemande, do it
with your partner.
Otherwise, nothing special in the walk-thru.
Note we had our usual mix of very good dancers with a handful of beginners
including at least one "perpetual beginner."
Dale
On Sun, Dec 7, 2025 at 11:46 AM Michael Fuerst via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
This dance works well as a quadruplet (contra
line with only four couples)
On Thu, Dec 4, 2025 at 10:37 AM Katie A via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
A Different Way Forward
https://share.google/1OzBw4bN7wf8Zu9JN
I am calling this weekend and walked this dance through with a small
group last night to prepare. I thought it was such an easy, straightforward
dance. 😆 No hard moves, everything flows into the next move nicely... The
end effects were tripping people up even though they *knew* what was going
on. These were all experienced dancers. We only had 2 hands fours and it's
a triple progression dance, so everyone was always involved in end effects.
Maybe that's the only reason it was so complicated. I do know more things I
could point out from the beginning now (the ladies that are out won't be
doing the first allemande, but everybody will be doing the second
allemande; all the ladies will be traveling counterclockwise around the
major set and all the men will be traveling clockwise) but I'm afraid to
call it on Saturday. Is this dance really that hard? What should I think?
😅 How do I do a better walkthrough? I don't want it to be information
overload but do I need to give a big picture explanation of the dance
before anyone starts moving? Or is this just all going to go better in
longer sets and people will sort out the end effects... ? It's such a fun
dance that I don't want to give it up but I don't want it to be a flop
either.
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6:52 a.m.
I called this last night at Childgrove in Saint Louis. It worked well and
the dancers seemed to be having a good time. Also it was fun to watch from
the stage.
Before starting the walk-thru I warned the dancers about the triple
progression and said:
You are never out in this dance. Do every move. If there is no neighbor
available for a move, do the move with your partner.
If you do not have a neighbor for the lady's (robin's) allemande, do it
with your partner.
Otherwise, nothing special in the walk-thru.
Note we had our usual mix of very good dancers with a handful of beginners
including at least one "perpetual beginner."
Dale
On Sun, Dec 7, 2025 at 11:46 AM Michael Fuerst via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
This dance works well as a quadruplet (contra line
with only four couples)
On Thu, Dec 4, 2025 at 10:37 AM Katie A via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
A Different Way Forward
https://share.google/1OzBw4bN7wf8Zu9JN
I am calling this weekend and walked this dance through with a small
group last night to prepare. I thought it was such an easy, straightforward
dance. 😆 No hard moves, everything flows into the next move nicely... The
end effects were tripping people up even though they *knew* what was going
on. These were all experienced dancers. We only had 2 hands fours and it's
a triple progression dance, so everyone was always involved in end effects.
Maybe that's the only reason it was so complicated. I do know more things I
could point out from the beginning now (the ladies that are out won't be
doing the first allemande, but everybody will be doing the second
allemande; all the ladies will be traveling counterclockwise around the
major set and all the men will be traveling clockwise) but I'm afraid to
call it on Saturday. Is this dance really that hard? What should I think?
😅 How do I do a better walkthrough? I don't want it to be information
overload but do I need to give a big picture explanation of the dance
before anyone starts moving? Or is this just all going to go better in
longer sets and people will sort out the end effects... ? It's such a fun
dance that I don't want to give it up but I don't want it to be a flop
either.
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7 Dec
7 Dec
9:45 a.m.
This dance works well as a quadruplet (contra line with only four couples)
On Thu, Dec 4, 2025 at 10:37 AM Katie A via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
A Different Way Forward
https://share.google/1OzBw4bN7wf8Zu9JN
I am calling this weekend and walked this dance through with a small group
last night to prepare. I thought it was such an easy, straightforward
dance. 😆 No hard moves, everything flows into the next move nicely... The
end effects were tripping people up even though they *knew* what was going
on. These were all experienced dancers. We only had 2 hands fours and it's
a triple progression dance, so everyone was always involved in end effects.
Maybe that's the only reason it was so complicated. I do know more things I
could point out from the beginning now (the ladies that are out won't be
doing the first allemande, but everybody will be doing the second
allemande; all the ladies will be traveling counterclockwise around the
major set and all the men will be traveling clockwise) but I'm afraid to
call it on Saturday. Is this dance really that hard? What should I think?
😅 How do I do a better walkthrough? I don't want it to be information
overload but do I need to give a big picture explanation of the dance
before anyone starts moving? Or is this just all going to go better in
longer sets and people will sort out the end effects... ? It's such a fun
dance that I don't want to give it up but I don't want it to be a flop
either.
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6 Dec
6 Dec
9:08 a.m.
Maybe I’m missing something here, but how can a triple progression dance be
expected to work if only two hands-four are dancing?
* Elizabeth Bloom Albert *
On Thu, Dec 4, 2025 at 2:03 PM Jerome Grisanti via Contra Callers <
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This is a "judge your crowd" dance for sure.
The bits aren't challenging
individually, but the gestalt may be intimidating.
I'd suggest telling everyone that when they reach the end, they do the
choreographed neighbor interaction with their partner, once and a half to
trade, and they're right back in.
Assure the crowd that they'll do fine. Sprinkly a bit of invisible magic
contra dust on the set.
Hope it goes well.
Jerome
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power and magic in it." --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
On Thu, Dec 4, 2025, 11:36 AM Katie A via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
A Different Way Forward
https://share.google/1OzBw4bN7wf8Zu9JN
I am calling this weekend and walked this dance through with a small
group last night to prepare. I thought it was such an easy, straightforward
dance. 😆 No hard moves, everything flows into the next move nicely... The
end effects were tripping people up even though they *knew* what was going
on. These were all experienced dancers. We only had 2 hands fours and it's
a triple progression dance, so everyone was always involved in end effects.
Maybe that's the only reason it was so complicated. I do know more things I
could point out from the beginning now (the ladies that are out won't be
doing the first allemande, but everybody will be doing the second
allemande; all the ladies will be traveling counterclockwise around the
major set and all the men will be traveling clockwise) but I'm afraid to
call it on Saturday. Is this dance really that hard? What should I think?
😅 How do I do a better walkthrough? I don't want it to be information
overload but do I need to give a big picture explanation of the dance
before anyone starts moving? Or is this just all going to go better in
longer sets and people will sort out the end effects... ? It's such a fun
dance that I don't want to give it up but I don't want it to be a flop
either.
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9:07 a.m.
This dance has no unusual end effects.
Couples out at the end allemande or shoulder round across the set with
their partners, which positions them to just face back in with the gent on
the left, as is done for most improper dances.
Why this dance baffled your test dancers remains a mystery
On Thu, Dec 4, 2025 at 10:37 AM Katie A via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
A Different Way Forward
https://share.google/1OzBw4bN7wf8Zu9JN
I am calling this weekend and walked this dance through with a small group
last night to prepare. I thought it was such an easy, straightforward
dance. 😆 No hard moves, everything flows into the next move nicely... The
end effects were tripping people up even though they *knew* what was going
on. These were all experienced dancers. We only had 2 hands fours and it's
a triple progression dance, so everyone was always involved in end effects.
Maybe that's the only reason it was so complicated. I do know more things I
could point out from the beginning now (the ladies that are out won't be
doing the first allemande, but everybody will be doing the second
allemande; all the ladies will be traveling counterclockwise around the
major set and all the men will be traveling clockwise) but I'm afraid to
call it on Saturday. Is this dance really that hard? What should I think?
😅 How do I do a better walkthrough? I don't want it to be information
overload but do I need to give a big picture explanation of the dance
before anyone starts moving? Or is this just all going to go better in
longer sets and people will sort out the end effects... ? It's such a fun
dance that I don't want to give it up but I don't want it to be a flop
either.
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4 Dec
4 Dec
12:02 p.m.
This is a "judge your crowd" dance for sure. The bits aren't challenging
individually, but the gestalt may be intimidating.
I'd suggest telling everyone that when they reach the end, they do the
choreographed neighbor interaction with their partner, once and a half to
trade, and they're right back in.
Assure the crowd that they'll do fine. Sprinkly a bit of invisible magic
contra dust on the set.
Hope it goes well.
Jerome
Jerome Grisanti
660-528-0858
http://www.jeromegrisanti.com
"Whatever you do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius and power
and magic in it." --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
On Thu, Dec 4, 2025, 11:36 AM Katie A via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
A Different Way Forward
https://share.google/1OzBw4bN7wf8Zu9JN
I am calling this weekend and walked this dance through with a small group
last night to prepare. I thought it was such an easy, straightforward
dance. 😆 No hard moves, everything flows into the next move nicely... The
end effects were tripping people up even though they *knew* what was going
on. These were all experienced dancers. We only had 2 hands fours and it's
a triple progression dance, so everyone was always involved in end effects.
Maybe that's the only reason it was so complicated. I do know more things I
could point out from the beginning now (the ladies that are out won't be
doing the first allemande, but everybody will be doing the second
allemande; all the ladies will be traveling counterclockwise around the
major set and all the men will be traveling clockwise) but I'm afraid to
call it on Saturday. Is this dance really that hard? What should I think?
😅 How do I do a better walkthrough? I don't want it to be information
overload but do I need to give a big picture explanation of the dance
before anyone starts moving? Or is this just all going to go better in
longer sets and people will sort out the end effects... ? It's such a fun
dance that I don't want to give it up but I don't want it to be a flop
either.
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